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PostSubject: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:03 pm

hello all.

let's have a good old fashioned DEBATE. Twisted Evil

the tables are turned, tho - because I'm now a believer.

There is a God, and this I am certain. I can prove any atheist wrong. just test me. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:17 pm

I'll just 'Copy Pasta' all your old stuff from Bustedarsecabi then?
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:10 pm

If you have proof, what is the point of faith Allister?

How can god's omniscience and man's free will coexist in the universe? If man does not have free will, god can be omniscient. If man does have free will, god deliberately curtailed the extent of his own knowledge to the extent that man's actions are unknowable. Sin is therefore a result of god's ignorance and man's willfullness combined.

You might as well toss a deck of cards into the air, tell them to worship you or else, then eternally damn all the ones that landed face down and refused to roll over on your "request".
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:12 pm

allisterfiend? wrote:
hello all.

let's have a good old fashioned DEBATE. Twisted Evil

the tables are turned, tho - because I'm now a believer.

There is a God, and this I am certain. I can prove any atheist wrong. just test me. Wink


You do know that, that is the number one most pointless debate out there?
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:46 pm

Prove my atheism wrong, bitch. I dare you!
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:01 pm

allisterfiend? wrote:
hello all.

let's have a good old fashioned DEBATE. Twisted Evil

the tables are turned, tho - because I'm now a believer.

There is a God, and this I am certain. I can prove any atheist wrong. just test me. Wink


Problem is most religious people wouldn't know the difference between verifiable fact and dogma, and then get offended when someone tries to inform them of the difference. Religion is a theory for what is not know. Anyone successful at building a human from a single rib bone yet? Yeah, the scrutiny of science over the past 150 years is quickly disassembling the political structure created thousands of years ago know as the bible.
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:04 pm

My god can kick your gods ARSE!




















My god is Beer.
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:45 pm

Crom laughs at your Four Winds!
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:49 pm

JooX wrote:
My god can kick your gods ARSE!







My god is Beer.

lol, ya know your thoughts have been shared by many through the eons. The Sumerian people had a goddess called Ninkasi...the goddess of beer. You faith is worthy of practice, imo. clown
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:51 pm

MCMXCII wrote:
Crom laughs at your Four Winds!

I'd buy the pay for view of Crom vs The Noodly Appendage.
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:57 pm

Allah is cool, he taught me how to make the bomb
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:02 pm

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Allah is cool, he taught me how to make the bomb

Come on man, everybody knows the IRA is better at that shit than the islamofascists.
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:05 pm

Did you know that it was indeed Michael Collins who originally thought of suicide bombers?
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:10 pm

Seriously, you are a
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:11 pm

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Did you know that it was indeed Michael Collins who originally thought of suicide bombers?

No, but he must of sucked at the suicide part of it if he didn't die. Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:16 pm

lol, well not that he or any other Irish man did. But he was the first one to tell them to do it if their bombs didn't detonate. Allah is still a cool enough fellow though.
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:47 pm

I like dead babies..... between two slices of bread.
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:36 pm

My god is good my god is right he'll give me what I need tonight
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:46 pm

you cant prove faith
just as much as you cant prove that there is a god
that being said
i do believe in a higher power with no affiliation to any religion
cuz people that are stuck up asswipes (on both sides) usually correlate religion with a god or a belief in a god with a religion

or something
idk
well since ur a believer allister both sides can argue their throats out but i really dont c how one person can just switch with a simple argument

idk
i want to go outside, its such a nice fucking day
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:49 pm

Pluh5000 wrote:
I like dead babies..... between two slices of bread.

Next time try it with some baby swiss, cheese always makes a sammich bettah.
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:20 pm

my god sits in the back of the limousine
my god comes in a wrapper of cellophane
my god pouts on the cover of the magazine
my god's a shallow little bitch trying to make the scene

I have arrived and this time you should believe the hype
I listened to everyone now I know that everyone was right
I'll be there for you as long as it works for me
I play a game
it's called insincerity

starfuckers
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starfuckers

I am every fucking thing and just a little more
I sold my soul but don't you dare call me a whore
and when I suck you off not a drop will go to waste
it's really not so bad you know once you get past the taste, yeah
(asskisser)

starfuckers
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all our pain
how did you think we'd get by without you?
you're so vain
I bet you think this song is about you
don't you?
don't you?
don't you?
don't you?

now I belong I'm one of the chosen ones
now I belong I'm one of the beautiful ones
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:59 pm

Monty wrote:
If you have proof, what is the point of faith Allister?

How can god's omniscience and man's free will coexist in the universe? If man does not have free will, god can be omniscient. If man does have free will, god deliberately curtailed the extent of his own knowledge to the extent that man's actions are unknowable. Sin is therefore a result of god's ignorance and man's willfullness combined.

You might as well toss a deck of cards into the air, tell them to worship you or else, then eternally damn all the ones that landed face down and refused to roll over on your "request".

One of the best aruments I've seen on religion. However, you could argue that to god, man's actions are knowable, despite free will. God could just as well be a master of time as well as space, and allows sin to happen to keep free will, but still be aware of every action and intent, leaving it to be judged in the future, or that there just is no other way to have natural order.

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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:33 pm

OR... stay with me on this. Or - it's just a load of old shit.
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:41 pm

Whatever you say everything can be doubted, therefor I believe in nothing and everything.
I agree with everything and disagree with it at the same time, death will learn me the truth.....maybe.
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PostSubject: Re: religion Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:46 pm

I believe what makes sense. Religion is too flawed. Not that I wouldn't WANT to believe. I think I'd be awesome to always blame everything on God's will and shit like that. Get away with almost anything, and never take responsibility for it. It's just that the idea of God is too fucked up and has too many gaps to actually be plausible.

I can't force myself to believe in stuff that doesn't make sense, no matter what. As such, I call bullshit on religion. Not to mention their geopolitical and economic agendas that are so nicely concealed behind the bullshit moralities and fictional stories.
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